And one of the things that brought me into the Libertarian Party is the idea of voluntary cooperation, of how people working together can do a better job. Taxes get raised, but it's not like people get fired. What happens when you give money to the government, and let's say they don't spend it wisely? Nothing happens. So I say that private charity always works best. And it's going to the large corporations and not often to the people who need it. JORGENSEN: Because what we're doing is we're letting the bureaucrats spend the money how they want to. You have opposed, I gather, the stimulus bills that have been passed to provide unemployment benefits and other forms of relief. SIMON: There are now more than 40 million unemployed people in the United States. OK, so that just shows that people have enough common sense to stay at home without the government telling them to. And in fact, when they did a survey - what? - maybe about a month ago and they asked people, should we be opening up the economy, something like 60 to 80% of the people said no, it's too soon. My problem, though, is that the government is the one who decided it and not the individual person. JORGENSEN: Of course, it's wise to stay at home during a pandemic, especially if you've got other conditions. SIMON: But isn't - in the middle of a pandemic, isn't that just wise? And within my city, if there were more than three people outside, then there was a possibility that we would either be fined $100 or that we would go to jail. And in fact, I know here in South Carolina, I was told I could only leave the house to go to work, medical emergencies and other things. JORGENSEN: People who want to go out and go about their daily business felt like it. I doubt any governor or mayor who declared that people should stay at home would consider that to be house arrest. SIMON: I want to follow up on your use of the phrase house arrest. But the people who are healthy or who have already had the flu let the economy go on and don't destroy the economy in the process. If people who had the virus knew they had the virus, then they would have been able to know to stay home or not go about their daily lives. And I'd like to point out that part of the problem that we had is that people weren't tested to know if they were contagious or not, if they had the virus or not. We believe in individual freedom and that people should be able to go about their lives as they choose. JORGENSEN: Well, the Libertarian administration first wouldn't have put everybody under house arrest.
What would a Libertarian administration do? SIMON: You've been critical of the federal government's response to the coronavirus crisis. Jorgensen, thanks so much for being with us. Jo Jorgensen, a party activist who teaches psychology at Clemson University, is the 2020 Libertarian candidate for president. Josh Jones is a writer and musician based in Durham, NC.The Libertarian Party has nominated their candidates for president and vice president online. Hallelujah!: You Can Stream Every Leonard Cohen Album in a 22-Hour Chronological Playlist (1967-2016) How Leonard Cohen & David Bowie Faced Death Through Their Art: A Look at Their Final Albums Leonard Cohen’s Last Work, The Flame Gets Published: Discover His Final Poems, Drawings, Lyrics & More
Hear Leonard Cohen’s Final Interview: Recorded by David Remnick of The New Yorker In the austerities of the monastery, Cohen discovered “a voluptuous sense of economy that you can’t find anywhere else,” a daily practice “necessary to open the heart to the fact that you’re not alone,” even if, as he says wryly in “The Goal,” above-the first release from Thanks for the Dance-you “can’t stop the rain, can’t stop the snow.”
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I was never able to use it.” He learned how to disassociate and quarantine himself. By and large, I didn’t have what it took to really enjoy my success, or my celebrity. “Maybe this whole activity,” the formal practice of Zen, “is a response to a sense of despair that I’ve always had…. Cohen talks about his journey into the monastery in the interview further up.
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